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ack Registered User

Joined: 22 Apr
2003 Posts: 79 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004
10:20 pm Post
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Brother.... that passion to
which you refer is what makes us all Die Hard Wolfers in the
first place. You did your job, so I don't see the need for the
apology - JMHO
And to repeatedly beat a dead horse....
Could someone tell me if the contest has been
completely cancelled? I can live with that. I would like to
use my three maps in another project -IF- this compilation is
never going to be released. _________________ Some days
I am sorry that I learned how to read. | |
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Zach Attack Registered User

Joined: 12 Mar
2003 Posts: 328 Location: Glass Onion
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004
11:44 pm Post
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| Arielus
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Alright people... There's some news
concerning our event here. On another thread, some days
ago, I posted a series of e-mails I had been sharing
with the judges, but specially with Zach. I'm sure many
of you must've come across that thread and read about
the current situation. Ok, there's some more I believe
those of you wondering about the Map Making Mania Melée
might be interested in knowing. Just some moments ago, I
sent an e-mail to all the three judges again, and this
is exactly what it said:
Dear Judges,
Hello there, I hope you all are fine. Listen, I
would like to finish off my job as the contest's 'middle
man', and in order to do that, I've prepared a package
for you. This, in no way, is something to rush you; it
is something only to conclude my task. I feel the need
to conclude what I started - that's all. I will do this
and then let you work freely from now on...
Onto
this very e-mail, I've attached a file called
'CONTEST.ZIP'. Inside of it, you will find several
things. Each of you should only see these things if you
are completely done with your corresponding judging
process, and not before. At the moment I am writing
this, I know you, Brian, have finished yours; but I
don't know whether you, Dan and Zach, have. So, please,
proceed only if you are done like Brian is.
Alright, first... There are 3 text files which
will let you know exactly what each of you judged. You
will see how I arranged the maps for each of you, and
who made each of those maps. I thought each of you might
find it interesting to know exactly the way in which the
other two judges played; so well, there you go...
Second: There is a file called '[ All The
Ingredients ].ZIP'. This file contains a GAMEMAPS.WL6
& MAPHEAD.WL6 pair of files, along with another text
file. Details about everything are included within the
mentioned text file, so please, make sure you read it.
That is all. Once more: All this is not
something to rush you, but something to finish off my
responsibility and let you go on freely. I hope you can
download 'CONTEST.ZIP' correctly.
It's all up to
you now. Bye!
Ariel.
There. I guess
I need not explain much, right? I mean, everything is on
the mail, isn't it? To conclude, I would only like to
say that I am sorry if I behaved too unbearably about
this whole event. I suppose I put way too much passion
into it... Anyway, I hope I've been somehow useful, and
in a way contributed to a better Map Making Mania Melée.
My intentions were always the best.
Ariel. |
You posted an email from me? What's the
thread? _________________ Hey, all wars have gotten
progressively more pointless over the
years... | |
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Arielus Registered User

Joined: 13 Mar
2003 Posts: 54 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004
11:53 pm Post
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This leads to the thread:
http://diehardwolfers.areyep.com/viewtopic.php?t=1157&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
What you are looking for is on its second page,
though. I hope you don't mind my having posted an e-mail from
you there, which was intended to be read by me only; I know I
perhaps should've asked for your permission before doing it.
Ariel. _________________ It's him... The
anomaly... Do we proceed?... Yes... He's still... Only
human. | |
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Schabbs Registered User

Joined: 12 Mar
2003 Posts: 40 Location: London, England
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004
7:09 pm Post subject:
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This 'Map Making Mania
Melee' contest has been dragging on for some time now. I've
emailed the other 2 judges and have had no response. I
finished the judging of the levels long ago but it did not
give a clear winner. Two entrants had exactly the same highest
scores.
The question is now, where do we go from here?
I could release the set with my comments but I'd like
to know from the entrants the best way to do this. Should the
6 entrants who did 3 levels each have their levels together in
one episode, making 6 in all (one episode would also have the
single level made by Joe)?
Any feedback would be
welcome. Also, if Zach or Dugtrio have any comments or results
could they please let me
know. _________________ Brian. | |
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ack Registered User

Joined: 22 Apr
2003 Posts: 79 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004
7:19 pm Post subject:
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| Schabbs
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This 'Map Making Mania Melee' contest
has been dragging on for some time now. I've emailed the
other 2 judges and have had no response. I finished the
judging of the levels long ago but it did not give a
clear winner. Two entrants had exactly the same highest
scores.
The question is now, where do we go from
here?
I could release the set with my comments
but I'd like to know from the entrants the best way to
do this. Should the 6 entrants who did 3 levels each
have their levels together in one episode, making 6 in
all (one episode would also have the single level made
by Joe)?
Any feedback would be welcome. Also, if
Zach or Dugtrio have any comments or results could they
please let me know. |
Well, Zach has let it be known that he
has shucked the responsibility of the contest (and I
understand his reasons). I guess that leaves it up to you and
dugtrio17. Should we not hear from dugtrio17 within a
reasonable time, I guess we should accept your judging and
leave it at that. Just a suggestion.
Using the six
sets as six different episodes makes sense. I was talking to
Chris, and he mentioned that his trio of levels includes one
which contains a secret elevator. Perhaps Joe's level could be
the secret level in Chris' set? I also have a secret elevator
in my trio of levels. Perhaps you could take my second level
and make it the secret level for that episode? That might make
the two episodes play better. Just a suggestion  _________________ Some days I am sorry that I
learned how to read. | |
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Arielus Registered User

Joined: 13 Mar
2003 Posts: 54 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004
10:03 pm Post
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I also believe that having
five episodes with 3 levels each, plus one episode with 4
levels is the most appropriate way to organise things. I think
each episode should have the three maps from the contestant
picked for that episode, and Joe's single submission should be
placed in any of them. ack's suggestions on how to place Joe's
map amidst Chris's are perfect, from my point of view, and the
way in which he wants his three maps sorted is completely
doable as well; thus, I believe things should be done like
that, unless someone has a better idea.
Particularly,
I don't mind in which episode number my three maps are
located, but I believe it would be nice if they were all
placed in their original order, that is, first the opening
one, then the middle one, and finally the boss one.
Ariel. _________________ It's him... The
anomaly... Do we proceed?... Yes... He's still... Only
human. | |
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Schabbs Registered User

Joined: 12 Mar
2003 Posts: 40 Location: London, England
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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004
12:16 pm Post
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Thanks Ack and Ariel for
the feedback. There's good ideas in both posts. I'll get
something done today on a levels format using the ideas
mentioned and post more details on the format when it's done.
Then the entrants (plus Zach and Dugtrio if they want) can say
if they'd like anything
changed. _________________ Brian. | |
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Schabbs Registered User

Joined: 12 Mar
2003 Posts: 40 Location: London, England
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004
6:26 pm Post subject:
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Here's a possible format I
put together for the Mapping Melee set.
Episode 1 - 3
levels by Arielus Episode 2 - 3 levels by Ack, plus Joe's
level as the secret one Episode 3 - 3 levels by Bernt
Hansen, plus a small end level on level 4 Episode 4 - 3
levels by Martin Episode 5 - 3 levels by David O 'Rafferty
Episode 6 - 3 levels by Chris, plus a spare level (left
over from the Tribute set) by Harry Mass Senior on level 4
Please let me know if anyone thinks anything should be
changed. _________________ Brian. | |
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Chris Registered User

Joined: 12 Mar
2003 Posts: 192 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004
11:42 pm Post
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Sounds great to me Brian. I
like the idea of having some "extra" special secret levels.
I'm sure they'll add to the variety and fun of the package.
Man, I wish I would have participated in the Bucksnort
Tribute set; but I only had the library as a resource for the
internet at the time. It's always cool to see all the others
that have participated to make that tribute a success; and
that there is actually even more levels that weren't able to
make it in there.
Nothing beats seeing people making
levels purely for the original game though, I believe, so I
can't wait to how this compilation turns out. Not sure how
each episode will blend in with the given environments, but
this layout sounds quite compatible and interesting - and you
don't need permission from me. I trust your
judgement. | |
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ack Registered User

Joined: 22 Apr
2003 Posts: 79 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2004
11:56 pm Post
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Everything Chris said
mirrors my opinion Looks great
to me, Brian _________________ Some days I am sorry that
I learned how to read. | |
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Arielus Registered User

Joined: 13 Mar
2003 Posts: 54 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004
2:08 am Post subject:
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Same here. Everything's
perfect, as I see it. Can't wait to see this mod on the
streets already!
Ariel. _________________ It's
him... The anomaly... Do we proceed?... Yes... He's still...
Only human. | |
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Chris Registered User

Joined: 12 Mar
2003 Posts: 192 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004
5:14 am Post subject:
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| Arielus
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| Can't wait to see this mod on the
streets already! | al·read·y
(ôl-rd) adv.
1. By this or a specified time;
before: The children were
already asleep when we got home. 2. So soon: Are you quitting already?
3. Nonstandard. Used as an intensive: Be quiet already. Enough
already.
I wonder which version Ariel was
referring to. They would all make sense in that sentance;
wouldn't they? Help me out here, your english skills are much
better than mine Ariel (which is pretty sad, considering that
it's my first language).  | |
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Schabbs Registered User

Joined: 12 Mar
2003 Posts: 40 Location: London, England
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004
9:37 am Post subject:
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Thanks everyone for the
feedback. I'm checking all the levels to make sure they're
compatible with the ceiling colours. Episodes 1 to 3 seem ok.
Once I've checked the other 3 episodes, if they look right,
I'll post the set on the Dome News and here in a couple
days. _________________ Brian. | |
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