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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

Brother.... that passion to which you refer is what makes us all Die Hard Wolfers in the first place. You did your job, so I don't see the need for the apology - JMHO

And to repeatedly beat a dead horse....

Could someone tell me if the contest has been completely cancelled? I can live with that. I would like to use my three maps in another project -IF- this compilation is never going to be released.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

Arielus wrote:
Alright people... There's some news concerning our event here. On another thread, some days ago, I posted a series of e-mails I had been sharing with the judges, but specially with Zach. I'm sure many of you must've come across that thread and read about the current situation. Ok, there's some more I believe those of you wondering about the Map Making Mania Melée might be interested in knowing. Just some moments ago, I sent an e-mail to all the three judges again, and this is exactly what it said:


Dear Judges,

Hello there, I hope you all are fine. Listen, I would like to finish off my job as the contest's 'middle man', and in order to do that, I've prepared a package for you. This, in no way, is something to rush you; it is something only to conclude my task. I feel the need to conclude what I started - that's all. I will do this and then let you work freely from now on...

Onto this very e-mail, I've attached a file called 'CONTEST.ZIP'. Inside of it, you will find several things. Each of you should only see these things if you are completely done with your corresponding judging process, and not before. At the moment I am writing this, I know you, Brian, have finished yours; but I don't know whether you, Dan and Zach, have. So, please, proceed only if you are done like Brian is.

Alright, first... There are 3 text files which will let you know exactly what each of you judged. You will see how I arranged the maps for each of you, and who made each of those maps. I thought each of you might find it interesting to know exactly the way in which the other two judges played; so well, there you go...

Second: There is a file called '[ All The Ingredients ].ZIP'. This file contains a GAMEMAPS.WL6 & MAPHEAD.WL6 pair of files, along with another text file. Details about everything are included within the mentioned text file, so please, make sure you read it.

That is all. Once more: All this is not something to rush you, but something to finish off my responsibility and let you go on freely. I hope you can download 'CONTEST.ZIP' correctly.

It's all up to you now. Bye!

Ariel.


There. I guess I need not explain much, right? I mean, everything is on the mail, isn't it? To conclude, I would only like to say that I am sorry if I behaved too unbearably about this whole event. I suppose I put way too much passion into it... Anyway, I hope I've been somehow useful, and in a way contributed to a better Map Making Mania Melée. My intentions were always the best.

Ariel.


You posted an email from me? What's the thread?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post

This leads to the thread:

http://diehardwolfers.areyep.com/viewtopic.php?t=1157&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

What you are looking for is on its second page, though. I hope you don't mind my having posted an e-mail from you there, which was intended to be read by me only; I know I perhaps should've asked for your permission before doing it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

This 'Map Making Mania Melee' contest has been dragging on for some time now. I've emailed the other 2 judges and have had no response. I finished the judging of the levels long ago but it did not give a clear winner. Two entrants had exactly the same highest scores.

The question is now, where do we go from here?

I could release the set with my comments but I'd like to know from the entrants the best way to do this. Should the 6 entrants who did 3 levels each have their levels together in one episode, making 6 in all (one episode would also have the single level made by Joe)?

Any feedback would be welcome. Also, if Zach or Dugtrio have any comments or results could they please let me know.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 7:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

Schabbs wrote:
This 'Map Making Mania Melee' contest has been dragging on for some time now. I've emailed the other 2 judges and have had no response. I finished the judging of the levels long ago but it did not give a clear winner. Two entrants had exactly the same highest scores.

The question is now, where do we go from here?

I could release the set with my comments but I'd like to know from the entrants the best way to do this. Should the 6 entrants who did 3 levels each have their levels together in one episode, making 6 in all (one episode would also have the single level made by Joe)?

Any feedback would be welcome. Also, if Zach or Dugtrio have any comments or results could they please let me know.


Well, Zach has let it be known that he has shucked the responsibility of the contest (and I understand his reasons). I guess that leaves it up to you and dugtrio17. Should we not hear from dugtrio17 within a reasonable time, I guess we should accept your judging and leave it at that. Just a suggestion.

Using the six sets as six different episodes makes sense. I was talking to Chris, and he mentioned that his trio of levels includes one which contains a secret elevator. Perhaps Joe's level could be the secret level in Chris' set? I also have a secret elevator in my trio of levels. Perhaps you could take my second level and make it the secret level for that episode? That might make the two episodes play better. Just a suggestion Cheesy Grin
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post

I also believe that having five episodes with 3 levels each, plus one episode with 4 levels is the most appropriate way to organise things. I think each episode should have the three maps from the contestant picked for that episode, and Joe's single submission should be placed in any of them. ack's suggestions on how to place Joe's map amidst Chris's are perfect, from my point of view, and the way in which he wants his three maps sorted is completely doable as well; thus, I believe things should be done like that, unless someone has a better idea.

Particularly, I don't mind in which episode number my three maps are located, but I believe it would be nice if they were all placed in their original order, that is, first the opening one, then the middle one, and finally the boss one.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

Thanks Ack and Ariel for the feedback. There's good ideas in both posts. I'll get something done today on a levels format using the ideas mentioned and post more details on the format when it's done. Then the entrants (plus Zach and Dugtrio if they want) can say if they'd like anything changed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

Here's a possible format I put together for the Mapping Melee set.

Episode 1 - 3 levels by Arielus
Episode 2 - 3 levels by Ack, plus Joe's level as the secret one
Episode 3 - 3 levels by Bernt Hansen, plus a small end level on level 4
Episode 4 - 3 levels by Martin
Episode 5 - 3 levels by David O 'Rafferty
Episode 6 - 3 levels by Chris, plus a spare level (left over from the Tribute set) by Harry Mass Senior on level 4

Please let me know if anyone thinks anything should be changed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

Sounds great to me Brian. I like the idea of having some "extra" special secret levels. I'm sure they'll add to the variety and fun of the package. Smile

Man, I wish I would have participated in the Bucksnort Tribute set; but I only had the library as a resource for the internet at the time. It's always cool to see all the others that have participated to make that tribute a success; and that there is actually even more levels that weren't able to make it in there.

Nothing beats seeing people making levels purely for the original game though, I believe, so I can't wait to how this compilation turns out. Not sure how each episode will blend in with the given environments, but this layout sounds quite compatible and interesting - and you don't need permission from me. I trust your judgement.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

Everything Chris said mirrors my opinion Very Happy Looks great to me, Brian
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:08 am    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote Edit/Delete this post

Same here. Everything's perfect, as I see it. Can't wait to see this mod on the streets already!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

Arielus wrote:
Can't wait to see this mod on the streets already!

al·read·y (ôl-rd) adv.

1. By this or a specified time; before: The children were already asleep when we got home.
2. So soon: Are you quitting already?
3. Nonstandard. Used as an intensive: Be quiet already. Enough already.

I wonder which version Ariel was referring to. They would all make sense in that sentance; wouldn't they? Help me out here, your english skills are much better than mine Ariel (which is pretty sad, considering that it's my first language). Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Map Making Mania Melee Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I'm checking all the levels to make sure they're compatible with the ceiling colours. Episodes 1 to 3 seem ok. Once I've checked the other 3 episodes, if they look right, I'll post the set on the Dome News and here in a couple days.
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